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Carter Wilson’s Making it Up podcast stars Jeffrey James Higgins, author of the Nathan Burke thriller series

“Writing is so personal. And when you’re writing a character, things come out that I know most writers, including myself, are unaware of when they’re writing it… They’re writing about things you’re trying to work out. It’s so deeply personal if you’re writing honestly.” — Jeffrey James Higgins

Jeffrey is a retired supervisory special agent who writes thrillers, short stories, creative nonfiction, and essays. He has wrestled a suicide bomber, fought the Taliban in combat, and chased terrorists across five continents. He received the Attorney General’s Award for Exceptional Heroism and the DEA Award of Valor.

He’s appeared on CNN Declassified, National Geographic’s Narco Wars, and ABC News. Jeffrey is a #1 Amazon bestselling author who’s won the Claymore Award, PenCraft’s Best Fiction Book of the Year, and a Readers’ Favorite Gold Medal. Among other things, Jeffrey and Carter discuss their style of interviewing in their podcasts, overly descriptive writing, and balancing reader expectations with experimenting with genres. At the end of their conversation, they make up a funny story using a line from Cormac McCarthy’s The Passenger.

Connect with Carter at carterwilson.com

Connect with Jeffrey at jeffreyjameshiggins.com